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Bruceadmin

14-10-07, 04:59 PM (GMT (ST))
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"Helene Cooper Blog - Dance company name needed..."
 
  
Ballet.co's newest blogger, Helene Cooper, has decided to form a dance company and wants a neat name for it - all (reasonable!) suggestions welcome. Read about her aims for the company here:
http://www.ballet.co.uk/weblogs/helenecooper/archives/2007_10.html
(Weblog home)

You can float company name ideas here or if you are feeling shy than email Helene at helenecooper@ballet.co.uk

Over to you...


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  Subject     Author     Message Date     ID  
  RE: Helene Cooper Blog - Dance company name needed... AnnWilliams 18-10-07 1
     RE: Helene Cooper Blog - Dance company name needed... Norman Reynolds 18-10-07 2
         RE: Helene Cooper Blog - Dance company name needed... ian_palmermoderator 18-10-07 3
         RE: Helene Cooper Blog - Dance company name needed... DaveM 18-10-07 4
             RE: Helene Cooper Blog - Dance company name needed... GW 18-10-07 5
                 RE: Helene Cooper Blog - Dance company name needed... HeleneC 06-11-07 11
             RE: Helene Cooper Blog - Dance company name needed... David Davies 18-10-07 6
                 RE: Helene Cooper Blog - Dance company name needed... JohnM 19-10-07 8
                 RE: Helene Cooper Blog - Dance company name needed... HeleneC 06-11-07 12
     RE: Helene Cooper Blog - Dance company name needed... Bruceadmin 18-10-07 7
         RE: Helene Cooper Blog - Dance company name needed... ian_palmermoderator 23-10-07 9
             RE: Helene Cooper Blog - Dance company name needed... Robert 23-10-07 10
             RE: Helene Cooper Blog - Dance company name needed... HeleneC 06-11-07 13

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AnnWilliams

18-10-07, 12:00 PM (GMT (ST))
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1. "RE: Helene Cooper Blog - Dance company name needed..."
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   Helene - good luck with the venture!

Is it safe to assume that the word 'dance' should be part of the company name?


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Norman Reynolds

18-10-07, 01:28 PM (GMT (ST))
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2. "RE: Helene Cooper Blog - Dance company name needed..."
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   Whatever name you choose you must do a broad web search to make sure there isn't any other name it could be confused with. I thought of something like 'reel one' or 'zoom', but both these are already used for various things. Even Northern Ballet Theatre has a namesake in New Hampshire! Try and find a name which will be permanent. Nothing is more damaging than having to lose your identity by changing names mid-stream - think of Rambert, Ballet Boyz, AMP and even the Royal Ballet - all have had terrible name experiences. You could try a name temporarily (in secret) while you make your other preparations and see if you are comfortable with it, rather like film companies work with a 'working title, until the film is completed. I think the best name would be straighforward and simple, not trying to tie youself to particular aspects of your work, let your work speak for itself in due course and identify the name. So I think the best would be either 'Helene Cooper Dance (Company)' or 'Asbury Cooper Dance'. You could try an anagram of your names, but I think there are too many vowels to make anything worth while (use an angram machine fron the web). Or you could find a word or phrase like 'Multifocal Dance', but that's a bit of a mouthful.


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ian_palmermoderator

18-10-07, 01:45 PM (GMT (ST))
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3. "RE: Helene Cooper Blog - Dance company name needed..."
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   I agree with Norman that a name is a very difficult thing to come up with. My favourite company name is Phoenix Dance Theatre because it also tells so much about the company's history and its beginnings - like a Phoenix rising from the communities of Chapelstown just outside of Sheffield.


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DaveM

18-10-07, 02:08 PM (GMT (ST))
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4. "RE: Helene Cooper Blog - Dance company name needed..."
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   Asbury Cooper Dance Company??? Think AC-DC already taken.....


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GW

18-10-07, 05:19 PM (GMT (ST))
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5. "RE: Helene Cooper Blog - Dance company name needed..."
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Dear Helene

Firstly, and most importantly may luck, time, money, fun and satisfaction be on your side. You don't need all of these but a few of them will make it all worthwhile. It's good that you have a soul-mate in the venture and I really hope you are successful. My daughter is a few years behind you but you are already where she wants to be!

Norman's advice about the name is really very sound. Try it out without being definitive too early - see how it feels for you and the people close to you before making any costly decisions. Don't make it too limiting and I think that simply using both your names may fall into this trap - things may change in the future.

I also agree with Ian - Phoenix Dance Theatre is a brilliant name because of where the company had come from - it's memorable and meaningful in terms of what the company is, and does.

I note that you plan to do site-specific work and there is a suggestion that indicates that your work might veeer towards physical theatre and not just pure dance.

You have a name that has a certain resonance in terms of mythology and beauty, launching a thousand ships and all that - perhaps this might suggest a company name that is not simply your name but something symbolic or allegorical which attaches to your name/s and what you both want to see for your company.

All best wishes

Graham


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HeleneC

06-11-07, 10:19 PM (GMT (ST))
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11. "RE: Helene Cooper Blog - Dance company name needed..."
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   Hello Graham,
Where exactly is your daughter studying?
The changes you mentionned happened sooner than I expected but I still haven't decided on a company name so no problems there.
I really like your suggestion about relating it to the mythology behind my name but I haven't thought of anything clever or original yet - Thousand ship dance collective doesn't quite have the right tone - ha ha.
All the best


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David Davies

18-10-07, 05:39 PM (GMT (ST))
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6. "RE: Helene Cooper Blog - Dance company name needed..."
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   Norman offers good advice about the perils of name changes, and the need to check other users. For example, there are at least two Dance Umbrellas in England, and maybe more elsewhere.

But is it essential to include the word 'dance'? A single-word title can be very arresting and the context in which it appears is usually the clue to the nature of the business, as with CandoCo and Morphoses.

After reading Helene's manifesto for her company, my suggestion is Saltarium. But how did I arrive at that?

A saltarium is a space for dancing, which Helene will create with her dancers. The word was coined by Rudolf von Laban for the large performance space at his Art of Movement Studio at Addlestone, Surrey. A Google search reveals that this name is not currently in use by anyone, but it does acknowledge the Laban pedigree.

Saltarium comes from the Latin verb saltare meaning to dance, or to jump or move in a structured way. Somersault is an Eglish derivative via the French verb sauter, and saltimbanco is a more obvious one from the Italian Commoedia del Arte.

It is certainly a good plan to try a working title in private to see if it wears comfortably in speech and print. Saltarium is pronounced sal...tear...eum. So it should be easier to say than Morphoses, for which I believe Christopher Wheeldon has issued a pronunciation guide!


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JohnM

19-10-07, 01:12 AM (GMT (ST))
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8. "RE: Helene Cooper Blog - Dance company name needed..."
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   The company wants to appeal widely so a fancy and non-explanatory name (like Morphoses) is perhaps not the thing. Something with 'dance' in it would make things clear. 'iDance' won't do - already taken by quite a few! How about eyeDance which doesn't seem to have been nabbed by anything relevant (note the obligatory funny capitalisation).

Avoid anything that can be mispronounced as that's just off-putting!


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HeleneC

06-11-07, 10:23 PM (GMT (ST))
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12. "RE: Helene Cooper Blog - Dance company name needed..."
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   Hello David,
I almost decided upon using Saltarium but have a few reservations. I really want whatever I choose to be followed by 'Collective' - I think it doesn't have to include the word dance since one of the philosophies of the collective would be in uniting artists of different art forms.
And I feel that Saltarium is better on its own rather than followed by collective. For some reason it keeps making me think of solarium as well and I'm not sure if it would be pronounced correctly.


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Bruceadmin

18-10-07, 05:51 PM (GMT (ST))
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7. "RE: Helene Cooper Blog - Dance company name needed..."
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   >Helene - good luck with the venture!
>
>Is it safe to assume that the word 'dance' should be part
>of the company name?

I'll jump in - it can be in or out!


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23-10-07, 02:45 PM (GMT (ST))
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9. "RE: Helene Cooper Blog - Dance company name needed..."
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   LAST EDITED ON 23-10-07 AT 02:45 PM (GMT (ST))
 
I like the sound of the Verite Dance Collective Helene. Why is that appealing to you? What a shame you have lost your collaborator so early on. Now you need even more best wishes than before!


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Robert

23-10-07, 06:19 PM (GMT (ST))
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10. "RE: Helene Cooper Blog - Dance company name needed..."
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   Who would have thought Adventures in Motion Pictures would have been any use as a dance company title. Some years ago we spent some time trying to think of a title for our dance band, and then went through the names of 17th century dances which proved ideal for us. Helen and Cooper are nice names why not just use them. Several companies have been named after their founders, the best known is The Mark Morris dance company.
Good Luck!


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HeleneC

06-11-07, 10:33 PM (GMT (ST))
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13. "RE: Helene Cooper Blog - Dance company name needed..."
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   Hello Ian,
Verite Dance Collective came from the idea that dance should be 'truthful' -should reflect everyday life. Verite is french for truth. However, I still have reservations about using this. Mainly because with a french company name and french spelling of my first name it may lead people to believe that the company is french. Someone suggested to me that this isn't a problem because most contemporary dance nowdays has an european feel to it but I wouldn't want to present the company as something it isn't.
Thanks for the good luck!


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