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Bruceadmin

11-01-06, 08:07 AM (GMT (ST))
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"Royal Ballet Giselle"
 
  
The Royal Ballet opened their Giselle run last night - Tamara Rojo and Carlos Acosta lead out what proved a pretty strong team I thought. More anon but this thread is primarily about you having your say on any of the Giselle performances, last nights included - so get writing!

Meantime...

John Ross was at the Opera House rehearsal/photoshoot on Monday:



Vanessa Palmer as Berthe - Giselle's mother




Roberta Marquez as Giselle




Albrecht - Ivan Putrov and Roberta Marquez - Giselle in Act II


Royal Ballet - Giselle - Jan 2006
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  Subject     Author     Message Date     ID  
  RE: Royal Ballet Giselle phil 11-01-06 1
  RE: Royal Ballet Giselle DaveM 11-01-06 2
     RE: Royal Ballet Giselle Sim 11-01-06 3
         RE: Royal Ballet Giselle alison 11-01-06 4
         RE: Royal Ballet Giselle Beryl H 11-01-06 5
             RE: Royal Ballet Giselle AlexP 11-01-06 6
                 RE: Royal Ballet Giselle Sim 11-01-06 7
                     RE: Royal Ballet Giselle Michael LL 12-01-06 8
                         RE: Royal Ballet Giselle Jenny_Taylor 15-01-06 9
                             RE: Royal Ballet Giselle wulff 15-01-06 10
                                 RE: Royal Ballet Giselle Lynette H 16-01-06 11
                                     RE: Royal Ballet Giselle wulff 16-01-06 12
                                     RE: Royal Ballet Giselle JohnM 16-01-06 13
                                     RE: Royal Ballet Giselle wulff 17-01-06 14
                                     RE: Royal Ballet Giselle JohnM 17-01-06 15
                                     RE: Royal Ballet Giselle alison 17-01-06 16
                                     RE: Royal Ballet Giselle Anjuli_Bai 17-01-06 17
                                     RE: Royal Ballet Giselle ian_palmermoderator 24-01-06 18
                                     RE: Royal Ballet Giselle ami 24-01-06 19
                                     RE: Royal Ballet Giselle wulff 24-01-06 20
                                     RE: Royal Ballet Giselle Jenny_Taylor 27-01-06 21
                                     Giselle 28 January 2006 - Cojacaru/Kobborg ami 29-01-06 22
                                     RE: Giselle 28 January 2006 - Cojacaru/Kobborg Sim 29-01-06 23
                                     RE: Giselle 28 January 2006 - Cojacaru/Kobborg Michael LL 29-01-06 24
                                     RE: Giselle 28 January 2006 - Cojacaru/Kobborg AlexP 29-01-06 25
                                     RE: Giselle 28 January 2006 - Cojacaru/Kobborg alison 29-01-06 26
                                     RE: Giselle 28 January 2006 - Cojacaru/Kobborg Preston Palon 30-01-06 27
                                     RE: Giselle 28 January 2006 - Cojacaru/Kobborg alison 30-01-06 28
                                     RE: Giselle 28 January 2006 - Cojacaru/Kobborg Sim 30-01-06 29
                                     RB Giselle - 8th February ian_palmermoderator 09-02-06 30
                                     RE: RB Giselle - 8th February ami 11-02-06 31
                                     RE: RB Giselle - 8th February wulff 11-02-06 32
                                     RE: RB Giselle - 8th February ami 11-02-06 33
                                     RE: RB Giselle - 8th February wulff 12-02-06 34
                                     RB Giselle - !5th April matinee..Watson debut Mandy 16-04-06 35
                                     RE: RB Giselle - !5th April matinee..Watson debut Sim 16-04-06 36
                                     RE: RB Giselle - !5th April matinee..Watson debut alison 21-04-06 48
                                     RE: RB Giselle - !5th April matinee..Watson debut dew_lyla 30-04-06 49
                                     RE: RB Giselle - !5th April matinee..Watson debut dew_lyla 18-04-06 37
                                     RE: RB Giselle - !5th April matinee..Watson debut lakey 18-04-06 38
                                     RE: RB Giselle - !5th April matinee..Watson debut charliewise 19-04-06 39
                                     RE: RB Giselle - !5th April matinee..Watson debut Pippa L 19-04-06 43
                                     RE: RB Giselle - !5th April matinee..Watson debut charliewise 19-04-06 47
                                     RE: RB Giselle - 15th April evening - Bussell/Bolle Paul N 19-04-06 44
                                     RE: RB Giselle - !5th April matinee..Watson debut Sim 19-04-06 40
                                     RE: RB Giselle - !5th April matinee..Watson debut Bruceadmin 19-04-06 41
                                     RE: RB Giselle - !5th April matinee..Watson debut Sim 19-04-06 42
                                     RE: RB Giselle - 15th April matinee..Watson debut Justin 19-04-06 45
                                     RE: RB Giselle - !5th April matinee..Watson debut Mandy 19-04-06 46
                                     RE: RB Giselle - 29th April Final Night..Watson and Benjamin dew_lyla 30-04-06 50
                                     RE: RB Giselle - 29th April Final Night..Watson and Benjamin Mandy 30-04-06 51
                                     RE: RB Giselle - 29th April Final Night..Watson and Benjamin dew_lyla 30-04-06 52
                                     RE: RB Giselle - 29th April Final Night..Watson and Benjamin alison 01-05-06 53
                                     RE: RB Giselle - 29th April Final Night..Watson and Benjamin dew_lyla 01-05-06 54
                                     RE: RB Giselle - 29th April Final Night..Watson and Benjamin Mandy 02-05-06 57
                                     RE: RB Giselle - 29th April Final Night..Watson and Benjamin annemarriott 02-05-06 58
                                     RE: RB Giselle - 29th April Final Night..Watson and Benjamin Bruceadmin 02-05-06 55
                                     RE: RB Giselle - 29th April Final Night..Watson and Benjamin DaveM 02-05-06 56

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phil

11-01-06, 08:21 AM (GMT (ST))
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1. "RE: Royal Ballet Giselle"
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   There is a new mini video on the ROH web-site with Jonathan Cope and Tamara Rojo talking about Giselle - see link below (you will need Apple's Quicktime to view)

http://info.royaloperahouse.org/PerformingSpaces/Index.cfm?subNavMenu=2&ccs=117&cs=2249


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DaveM

11-01-06, 08:37 AM (GMT (ST))
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2. "RE: Royal Ballet Giselle"
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   what an opening night!
Tamara and Carlos were a wonderful lead couple, heartbrakingly tender, and needless to say, danced with an eye on perfection. More than ably backed up with a very strong supporting cast of Zenaida Yanowski as Myrtha (and a very haughty and imperious Myrtha she was too), and Sarah Lamb and Laura Morera as her 'assistants'. They all danced impeccably - Zen's entrance en pointe across the width of the stage was breathtaking - as was the whole corps in the dance of the Wilis. And a special mention to Sandra Conley as Giselle's mum - I almost burst into applause after her mime warning Giselle of her fate in Act 1.

I'm biased anyway, as I love the ballet (and the company), but it was such a joy seeing it danced so well last night, I almost burst with enthusiasm!
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Sim

11-01-06, 11:24 AM (GMT (ST))
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3. "RE: Royal Ballet Giselle"
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   I agree totally with Dave. What an opening night...no technical glitches, and almost perfection from every last person on the stage. Tamara and Carlos were heartbreakingly convincing, and Thiago Soares as Hilarion turned in a performance that made me feel incredibly sorry for this character. Hilarion: goody or baddy? In Thiago's performance definitely a goody. I've never really understood why he has to die, when all he tries to do is warn Giselle that she is being deceived and will be left alone and devastated if she loves this impostor. It is obviously because Giselle loves Albrecht instead, so that love is what saves him. Because she doesn't love poor old Hilarion, there is nothing to counteract the evil and he succumbs to the Wilis. Soares' technique and his acting are on top form at the moment...a clear candidate for promotion to Principal at the end of the season, I hope!

Zen as Myrtha is in her element: regal, imperious, chillingly bent on vengeance. Her solo at the beginning of Act 2 was, simply, beautiful.

I was also mighty impressed with Sandra Conley, as was my daughter. She kept talking about that mime scene all the way home, as well as asking questions about Conley herself. She has never even mentioned the mime before! Having been to the Giselle Insight Evening a couple of weeks ago, I understood every gesture she made, and it was so clear and so poignant; here was a mother worried about her daughter's mistake and its possible consequences, and this anguish manifested itself in every move of her eyes as well as in the miming itself. Wonderful.

As Dave said, the Corps were astonishing in Act 2. Their lines were straight, their hands and feet in complete synchronisation; on both sides of the stage it looked as if there were only one dancer with mirrors making it seem like many more, that's how they moved and stood still as one. They were fluid and frighteningly frosty, yet ethereal at the same time. I was glad they got the applause they so richly deserved. Congratulations to them and to whoever is coaching them.

Rojo and Acosta really understand each other and have a palpable empathy on stage. Rojo's mad scene unfolded as if in slow motion, with every nuance of her descent very clear; it was moving and tragic, yet a joy to watch such passion unfolding. Acosta really came into his own in Act 2, with his fiery technique combining with a deepfelt despair at what he'd done; the look of hope and relief on his face as the curtain came down will stay with me.

A stunning opening night; everyone involved has set a very high standard indeed, and I now look forward to seeing some of the other casts. Long may the RB continue in its present form!


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alison

11-01-06, 01:05 PM (GMT (ST))
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4. "RE: Royal Ballet Giselle"
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   You must have been sitting a lot nearer the stage than I was, Sim! Was it just me, or did much of the performance not really "reach" to the back of the amphitheatre? Or perhaps it was just the dim lighting meaning that not everything was clearly visible? I know I was feeling a bit off-colour last night, but not that much!


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Beryl H

11-01-06, 01:28 PM (GMT (ST))
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5. "RE: Royal Ballet Giselle"
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   A stunning opening night; everyone involved has set a very
>high standard indeed, and I now look forward to seeing some
>of the other casts. Long may the RB continue in its present
>form!

Totally agree, it's amazing, every performance I attend now seems to be special, last night was no exception, plus the extra privilege of seeing Carlos Acosta!


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AlexP

11-01-06, 05:30 PM (GMT (ST))
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6. "RE: Royal Ballet Giselle"
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   >You must have been sitting a lot nearer the stage than I
>was, Sim! Was it just me, or did much of the performance
>not really "reach" to the back of the amphitheatre?

I felt the same, at least to some degree. Although should add it was not so much individual performances because I really felt everyone performed fantastically but just the total effect a little less than you would have hoped for given such fine dancing throughout. I put it down 'firstnightitis', there were a few near misses (actually, one or two collisions too I think) during some of the complex pattern dancing and the corps seemed to be focusing on the stage rather than beyond it at times.

Having said that I was having an off night myself and not in the mood to be wedged, as I was, between two people who's legs/arms/shoulders defied all concept of personal bounderies.

I thought Tamara was absolutely in her element in Act II. But I predict it will be Alina and Johan who will do a 'roof blower' performance - and I haven't got a ticket for them yet! Yikes!


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Sim

11-01-06, 07:15 PM (GMT (ST))
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7. "RE: Royal Ballet Giselle"
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   Yes Alex...Alina and Johan have certainly blown the roof off every time I've seen them dance it! They are also the only two who have ever sent hubby out of the ROH with a big lump in his throat and tears in his eyes as the curtain came down on a devasted-looking Johan!

I must say I didn't notice any collisions or even near misses. Maybe that's where the bird's eye perspective comes in handy (or not...I wouldn't have wanted to see anything off last night; it would have ruined the magic unfolding onstage!). I was standing at the back of the Stall Circle, exactly in the middle so as far away from the stage as one can be on that level. I was using my binocs a lot but didn't notice anything amiss. To answer Alison's point, everything came to the back of the Stalls very clearly, even without the binocs. A real pity if those upstairs missed out.


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Michael LL

12-01-06, 02:56 AM (GMT (ST))
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8. "RE: Royal Ballet Giselle"
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   I was in row M of the amphi and found the performance superlative. To have such moving and brilliant performances in all the leading roles was a real honour. One could hardly imagine that the combination of Rojo, Acosta, Yanowsky, Soares and Conley could be bettered in the dance world today. And yet we have the privilege of saying that we have Cojocaru and Kobborg yet to come! We are so lucky to have such a great company as the Royal Ballet.


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Jenny_Taylor

15-01-06, 12:11 PM (GMT (ST))
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9. "RE: Royal Ballet Giselle"
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   I saw the Rojo / Acosta performance on Friday 14th and can only echo the comments made so far: it was a fabulous experience, with sublime dancing by both principals. I was lucky enough to be in Row E (Orch stalls) so was able to see all the facial expressions close up as well.

Special mentions also, for Thiago Soares as Hilarion and Zenaida Yanowsky as Myrtha. I have never taken much notice of Hilarion before but with Thiago in the role, I couldn't take my eyes of him: such stage presence, strong acting and energy.

In fact, I had that problem throughout the performance as there were so many good things to look at. Sandra Conley gave a moving performance as Berthe and Sarah Lamb and Laura Morera as Myrtha's attendants were excellent. The corps, especially the Wilis, were on top form.

Wonderful.


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wulff

15-01-06, 05:42 PM (GMT (ST))
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10. "RE: Royal Ballet Giselle"
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   I was at the same performance, and in addition to agreeing with the views of preceding posters on the excellent performances of the the dancers in the leading roles I was also impressed by Lauren Cuthbertson in the Pas de Six. I thought she did very well in the Ashton variation which has been interpolated here. With its abrupt stops and starts and changes of direction (it was originally choreographed on Antoinette Sibley) it is far from easy, and I thought Lauren really did it justice.


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16-01-06, 09:15 AM (GMT (ST))
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11. "RE: Royal Ballet Giselle"
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   I've always wanted to know - when was this Ashton variation created ? Does it pre date the Peter Wright production ? How did it come to be included ?


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wulff

16-01-06, 05:58 PM (GMT (ST))
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12. "RE: Royal Ballet Giselle"
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   I was wrong about the Ashton variation being created on Antoinette Sibley. In fact it was Maryon Lane who first performed it in a production of Giselle directed by Ashton in 1960. This production was the one in which the mime for Giselle's mother telling the story of the Wilis, remembered by Karsavina, was restored. The music used for this variation was originally intended for a variation for Giselle, which seems to have been long forgotten, and as far as I can make out is by Adam. The music for the "Peasant Pas de Deux" -- expanded by Peter Wright to a pas de six, presumably on the premise that "more is better" -- is not by Adam but by Burgmuller and is an early interpolation. The Ashton variation seems to have been used in all post-1960 productions of Giselle by the RB, including Peter Wright's.


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JohnM

16-01-06, 06:13 PM (GMT (ST))
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13. "RE: Royal Ballet Giselle"
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   > presumably on the premise that "more is better"

Yes, but not for the usual reason! He feels that introducing an irrelevant but (dance-wise) rather important couple disrupts the narrative too much. Better to dilute the effect by using six villagers who are just continuing the vendange festivities.


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wulff

17-01-06, 11:41 AM (GMT (ST))
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14. "RE: Royal Ballet Giselle"
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   >> presumably on the premise that "more is better"
>
>Yes, but not for the usual reason! He feels that introducing
>an irrelevant but (dance-wise) rather important couple
>disrupts the narrative too much. Better to dilute the effect
>by using six villagers who are just continuing the vendange
>festivities.

Then why are they dressed differently from the other villagers and make their entry later? The local Courland dance troupe hired for the occasion, perhaps? I'm sorry, but I remain unconvinced and don't find that this "multiplication" treatment improves the dramatic credibility in any way. For my taste, I'd be quite happy with a pdd.


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JohnM

17-01-06, 12:16 PM (GMT (ST))
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15. "RE: Royal Ballet Giselle"
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   I agree with you about the dress. Sir Peter's logic would seem firmer if they were dressed as ordinary villagers. I agree with him however that having an irrelevant pas de deux with a couple from nowhere seen only once does upset the dramatic flow.


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alison

17-01-06, 01:16 PM (GMT (ST))
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16. "RE: Royal Ballet Giselle"
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   The music used for this
>variation was originally intended for a variation for
>Giselle, which seems to have been long forgotten, and as far
>as I can make out is by Adam.

I thi