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Robaire

17-02-03, 11:56 PM (GMT)
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"Nijinsky film"
 
   Is anyone aware of any surviving film footage of Nijinsky dancing. If so is it available on video or dvd?


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  RE: Nijinsky film John 17-02-03 1
     RE: Nijinsky film Renee Renouf Hall 18-02-03 2
         RE: Nijinsky film pmeja 18-02-03 3
             RE: Nijinsky film Renee Renouf Hall 20-02-03 4
                 RE: Nijinsky film pmeja 20-02-03 5
  RE: Nijinsky film Marie 21-02-03 6
     RE: Nijinsky film musagete 21-02-03 7
         RE: Nijinsky film pmeja 21-02-03 8
             RE: Nijinsky film Stephanie_Wragg 21-02-03 9
  RE: Nijinsky film musagete 22-02-03 10
     RE: Nijinsky film pmeja 22-02-03 11
         RE: Nijinsky film Anjuli_Bai 22-02-03 12
             RE: Nijinsky film pmeja 22-02-03 13
                 RE: Nijinsky film Anjuli_Bai 22-02-03 14
                     RE: Nijinsky film Robert 25-02-03 15
                         RE: Nijinsky film pmeja 25-02-03 16
                             RE: Nijinsky film Renee Renouf Hall 27-02-03 17
                             RE: Nijinsky film JM 28-02-03 18

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John

17-02-03, 11:59 PM (GMT)
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1. "RE: Nijinsky film"
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   >Is anyone aware of any surviving
>film footage of Nijinsky dancing.
>If so is it available
>on video or dvd?

No - it's generally assumed that nothing exists. Sad - or perhaps not - we might be terribly disappointed.


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Renee Renouf Hall

18-02-03, 02:06 AM (GMT)
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2. "RE: Nijinsky film"
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   Sometime ago an East German choreographer mentioned to me that there was footage in the Dance Archive in Leipzig, footage which the late Dr. Peter Ostwald claimed to have seen. This stems from the period 1986-1990. Later the choreographer said that the widow of the archivist had taken the film with her to Dusseldorf, and from this point onward I haven't a clue.

In mentioning this, let me hasten to say that the choreographer probably has not, repeat not, had any contact with the widow, and it would not be of any value to try to contact them on the matter.

I have deliberately left out identification so that my informant won't be bothered. It's a nice will o' the wisp, I am afraid, at this point in time. But wouldn't it make the basis for a great who dunnit?


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pmeja

18-02-03, 08:56 AM (GMT)
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3. "RE: Nijinsky film"
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   I remember inquiring about this because isn't Ostwald the psychiatrist who wrote the book about Nijinsky, and had access to medical records of his? I was told that evidently the footage (to which he refers in his book) was actually a grainy film of Yuri Soloviev in Spectre, which had appeared at one time on Russian television.


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Renee Renouf Hall

20-02-03, 04:48 PM (GMT)
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4. "RE: Nijinsky film"
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   Pmeja, I can't really respond very definitively to your comment regarding Soloviev. I do believe in my German choreographer's
veracity, however.

I knew Dr. Ostwald rather well, casually, since I worked down the hall from him at Langley Porter Psychiatric Institute. I typed the manuscript for his book on Robert Schumann, which won the Deems Taylor Award for a musical manuscript after it came out. One of my memorable employment moments occurred when I had a question about a quote and Dr. Ostwald stood by me, translating directly from the German, so the passage would be accurate. For the Nijinsky manuscript and his subsequent others, (including a biography on Glenn Gould, who was a class mate to Dr. Ostwald's wife Lise), Dr. Ostwald acquired a Mac, so didn't require someone to word process for him.

Dr. Ostwald never elaborated where he saw the film, and yes, he was the psychiatrist-author of "Nijinsky: A Leap Into Madness." His viewing of a Soloviev film would depend on your particular sources.


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pmeja

20-02-03, 11:35 PM (GMT)
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5. "RE: Nijinsky film"
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   When I first read Ostwald's book (which I thought was very very good), that mention of a film absolutely jumped (!) off the page at me. I happened to speak to David Leonard a little while later and it is from him that I got what I offered in my previous post about the film of Soloviev, which I have and which I could almost believe might be mistaken as a film of Nijinsky, so that is the source of what I wrote.


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Marie

21-02-03, 00:03 AM (GMT)
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6. "RE: Nijinsky film"
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   I've heard that there was Nijinsky exhibition at Musee d'Orsay in Paris and showing about a munite film there, in December 2000.
I'm not sure if this is the one Nijinsky was dancing or just showing bit of his life.
These things are belong to individuals (privately), collectors, I suppose.


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musagete

21-02-03, 06:35 AM (GMT)
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7. "RE: Nijinsky film"
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   The catalogue from this exhibition has a very long and informative article regarding the whole issue of film footage of Nijinsky. It covers a large number of purported sightings over the years, with intriguing stories of private showings to various celebrities and discusses footage that some think is more likely to be Idzikowsky than Nijinsky. The catalogue is I believe still available via Amazon France.


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pmeja

21-02-03, 08:15 AM (GMT)
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8. "RE: Nijinsky film"
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   Thank you for posting that! I've ordered the catalog, it sounds interesting.

It would be very interesting also to see footage of Idzikowsky. Hard to mistake them unless the film would be very fuzzy or grainy, or shot from far away, since facially he and Nijinsky were very different. Such mystery!


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Stephanie_Wragg

21-02-03, 05:42 PM (GMT)
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9. "RE: Nijinsky film"
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   The stuff of dreams....

I distinctly remember reading in the Nijinksy biography by Richard Buckle that an important opportunity to film Nijinsky and The Ballets Russes was missed when the company was in Hollywood during its first US tour (I believe it was 1916). The dancers were introducued to a variety of Hollywood stars, plans were made to film, but nothing came of it.

Also mentionned in the book is that Nijinsky, acting as head of the company for the tour, often did not danced as advertised. Idzikovsy and others would appear in his name. Therefore any film of Nijinsky should be viewed with caution (especially if Carnaval is on offer i.e. the face makeup was quite heavy).

I would very much want to see any contemporary of Nijinsky dance, I am sure that a very good impression of his dancing could be extrapolated from the footage, given the large critical literature available from that time.


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musagete

22-02-03, 01:32 AM (GMT)
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10. "RE: Nijinsky film"
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   Other replies have discussed the Nijinsky issue, but as a parenthesis or perhaps it should be a new topic, interested parties may already know that Ida Rubinstein starred in an Italian film at the start of the Twenties entitled "La Nave", from D'Annunzio. Although an acting role, she was called upon to dance in one sequence, and one can gain a good impression of her style from this scene. Her emoting in the more dramatic scenes also gives a good idea of what her Zobeide was probably like. The copy I saw was a 16MM print from an archive in Turin. I think Ken Russell used some of this footage in "The Debussy Film" to illustrate "Le Martyre de Saint Sebastien". The "Ballets Suedois" appeared in the French film "L'Inhumaine". They were filmed from the stage of the Theatre de la Champs Elysses in "La Nuit de Saint Jean". The sequence is quite a long one and gives a good idea of the company, but it would perhaps have been more interesting if "La Creation du Monde" or "L'Homme et Son Desir" was the ballet filmed.


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pmeja

22-02-03, 10:50 AM (GMT)
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11. "RE: Nijinsky film"
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   although a bit later (1929), Lydia Lopokova, Anton Dolin and George Balanchine appeared as dancers in a film which was the first talking film (supposedly according to a documentary I saw) made in Britain called "Dark Red Roses".


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Anjuli_Bai

22-02-03, 02:33 PM (GMT)
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12. "RE: Nijinsky film"
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   I always thought the first talking film was "The Jazz Singer," in 1927.

Here is a link to it:

http://wywy.essortment.com/firsttalkies_refn.htm


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pmeja

22-02-03, 06:41 PM (GMT)
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13. "RE: Nijinsky film"
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   LAST EDITED ON 22-02-03 AT 06:44 PM (GMT)

LAST EDITED ON 22-02-03 AT 06:44 PM (GMT)

From the website of the Balanchine Foundation:

"From 1927 to 1931, Balanchine staged dances and musical numbers for revues, variety shows, and operettas in London and Paris as well as creating choreography for Dark Red Roses, the first feature-length talking motion picture made in England."

It was on the set of Dark Red Roses that Balanchine heard of the death of Diaghilev.


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Anjuli_Bai

22-02-03, 10:45 PM (GMT)
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14. "RE: Nijinsky film"
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   Ah, I see, "Made in England," well that explains it, as opposed to first talking film ever made.


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Robert

25-02-03, 04:54 PM (GMT)
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15. "RE: Nijinsky film"
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   If Nijinsky danced in Hollywood in 1916 he may have been filmed by Trotsky! Now there is a piece of useless information.

The New York Public Library have a wonderful collection of dance related material, do they know anything about a Nijinsky film? Perhaps one of our American friends could ask?


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pmeja

25-02-03, 05:44 PM (GMT)
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16. "RE: Nijinsky film"
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   No, unfortunately, they have no dancing film of Nijinsky. This is the closest thing I could find, however:

Title United News / United Newsreel Corporation.
Imprint U.S. : United Newsreel Corporation, 1945.


LOCATION CALL # STATUS
PerfArts-Dance *MGZIA 4-5001
Descript 1 videocassette (10 min.) : sd., b&w NTSC ; 1/2 in. (VHS)
Contents Japanese surrender more territory -- Quisling convicted of treason -- Allied powers occupy Vienna -- American troops enter Tokyo.
Summary Newsreel containing various items on events following World War II. Vaslav Nijinsky appears in the segment titled "Allied powers occupy Vienna," beginning at ca. 8:30 min. into the tape. In ca. 10 sec. of footage, he walks down a street in what the narrator describes as his first public appearance in 27 years of mental illness. This segment was included in the documentary Vaslav Nijinski, une āme en exil (c2000)


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Renee Renouf Hall

27-02-03, 07:20 PM (GMT)
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17. "RE: Nijinsky film"
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   If the Nijinsky film I alluded to does iindeed exit, my guess is
that it may have been filmed in Germany, before World War I started,
and when the company appeared in Berlin one season. Would that be
improbable? That is, were films being made as early as 1912-1913?
It certainly would explain why the choreographer told me it had been in the dance archive in Leipzig.


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JM

28-02-03, 04:54 PM (GMT)
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18. "RE: Nijinsky film"
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   When I was with the BBC and working in the same department as John Drummond, who made two superb films about Diaghilev when quite a few of the stars were still alive, I seem to remember hearing that Diaghilev had deliberately forbidden any film of his company because he believed that the technology of the time could not give a sufficiently accurate account of the company. He was notorious for paying scrupulous attention to the quality of the music, the lighting etc. as well as the dancing. Of course this doesn't mean to say that Nijinsky wasn't filmed when he had left Diaghilev, but I have always heard that there is nothing of him - and we were always looking!


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