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KM

21-12-09, 04:12 PM (BST)
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"Bolshoi in London - July / Aug 2010"
 
   LAST EDITED ON 21-02-10 AT 04:23 PM (GMT) by Bruce (admin)
 
I just noticed that the rep & dates for the Covent Garden summer season are on the ROH website, although something is clearly wrong with the listing as the dates for Spartacus and Coppélia are identical.

Friends booking opens on 2 March 2010 and general booking on 6 April 2010. Tickets priced between £10-97.

Spartacus
19 / 20 / 21 / 31 July at 7.30pm / 31 July at 2.00pm

Coppélia
19 / 20 / 21 / 31 July at 7.30pm / 31 July at 2.00pm

Serenade / Giselle
22 / 23 / 24 July at 7.30pm / 24 July at 2.00pm

Russian Seasons / Petrushka / Paquita
29 / 30 July at 7.30pm

Le Corsaire
2 / 3 / 4 / 5 August at 7.30pm

Don Quixote
6 / 7 August at 7.30pm / 7 August at 2.00pm / 8 August at 3.00pm


The correct dates are now known and in this post:
http://www.ballet.co.uk/dcforum/DCForumID12/212.html#13

Edit: added link to correct dates. BM


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  RE: Bolshoi in London - July / Aug 2010 Amelia 21-12-09 1
     RE: Bolshoi in London - July / Aug 2010 KM 22-12-09 2
         RE: Bolshoi in London - July / Aug 2010 ian_palmermoderator 22-12-09 3
             RE: Bolshoi in London - July / Aug 2010 carboni1 29-12-09 4
                 RE: Bolshoi in London - July / Aug 2010 Amelia 29-12-09 5
                     RE: Bolshoi in London - July / Aug 2010 Amelia 29-12-09 6
                         RE: Bolshoi in London - July / Aug 2010 Don Q fan 30-12-09 7
                             RE: Bolshoi in London - July / Aug 2010 Don Q fan 01-01-10 8
                                 RE: Bolshoi in London - July / Aug 2010 tchopton 01-01-10 9
                                     RE: Bolshoi in London - July / Aug 2010 Don Q fan 02-01-10 10
                                     RE: Bolshoi in London - July / Aug 2010 Pat888 06-01-10 11
                                     RE: Bolshoi in London - July / Aug 2010 Mijosh 12-01-10 12
  PR: Bolshoi at Royal Opera House in July/August Bruceadmin 14-02-10 13
     RE: PR: Bolshoi at Royal Opera House in July/August alison 14-02-10 14
         RE: PR: Bolshoi at Royal Opera House in July/August Amelia 14-02-10 15
             RE: PR: Bolshoi at Royal Opera House in July/August Bruceadmin 15-02-10 16
                 RE: PR: Bolshoi at Royal Opera House in July/August ian_palmermoderator 15-02-10 17
                     RE: PR: Bolshoi at Royal Opera House in July/August Ghost_13 17-02-10 18
                         RE: PR: Bolshoi at Royal Opera House in July/August Amelia 17-02-10 19
                         RE: PR: Bolshoi at Royal Opera House in July/August now voyager 18-02-10 20
                             RE: PR: Bolshoi at Royal Opera House in July/August Pat888 18-02-10 21
                                 RE: PR: Bolshoi at Royal Opera House in July/August Don Q fan 18-02-10 22
                                     RE: PR: Bolshoi at Royal Opera House in July/August ian_palmermoderator 19-02-10 23
                                     RE: PR: Bolshoi at Royal Opera House in July/August Kevin Ngmoderator 19-02-10 24
                                     RE: PR: Bolshoi at Royal Opera House in July/August Mijosh 11-03-10 25
                                     RE: PR: Bolshoi at Royal Opera House in July/August JohnM 12-03-10 26
                                     RE: PR: Bolshoi at Royal Opera House in July/August afds 12-03-10 27
                                     RE: PR: Bolshoi at Royal Opera House in July/August Jane Sadmin 12-03-10 28
                                     RE: PR: Bolshoi at Royal Opera House in July/August Don Q fan 12-03-10 29
                                     RE: PR: Bolshoi at Royal Opera House in July/August Bruceadmin 12-03-10 30
                                     RE: PR: Bolshoi at Royal Opera House in July/August Don Q fan 14-03-10 31
                                     RE: PR: Bolshoi at Royal Opera House in July/August Amelia 14-03-10 32
                                     RE: PR: The Hochhausers Amelia 14-03-10 33
                                     RE: PR: The Hochhausers Don Q fan 14-03-10 34
                                     RE: PR: The Hochhausers Amelia 16-03-10 35
                                     Dancers not appearing ian_palmermoderator 19-03-10 36
                                     RE: Dancers not appearing Amelia 19-03-10 37
                                     RE: Dancers not appearing Naoko S 20-03-10 38
                                     RE: Dancers not appearing afds 21-03-10 40
                                     RE: PR: The Hochhausers afds 21-03-10 39
                                     RE: PR: Bolshoi at Royal Opera House in July/August amum 25-03-10 41
                                     RE: PR: Bolshoi at Royal Opera House in July/August Don Q fan 25-03-10 42
                                     RE: PR: Bolshoi at Royal Opera House in July/August afds 31-03-10 43
  RE: Bolshoi in London - Major cast changes Azulynn 09-07-10 44
     RE: Bolshoi in London - Major cast changes Kinsayder 09-07-10 45
         RE: Bolshoi in London - Major cast changes Bluebird 09-07-10 47
             RE: Bolshoi in London - Major cast changes Kinsayder 09-07-10 48
             RE: Bolshoi in London - Major cast changes Bruceadmin 12-07-10 57
                 RE: Bolshoi in London - Major cast changes Kinsayder 13-07-10 58
                     RE: Bolshoi in London - Major cast changes afds 13-07-10 59
                 RE: Bolshoi in London - Major cast changes Paul A 13-07-10 60
     RE: Bolshoi in London - Major cast changes Carmela 09-07-10 46
     RE: Bolshoi in London - Major cast changes afds 09-07-10 49
         RE: A minor correction Amelia 10-07-10 50
             RE: A minor correction Bluebird 10-07-10 51
                 RE: A minor correction Don Q fan 10-07-10 52
                     RE: A minor correction alison 10-07-10 53
                         RE: A minor correction KM 12-07-10 56
         RE: Bolshoi in London - Major cast changes Naoko S 11-07-10 54
             RE: Bolshoi in London - Major cast changes afds 11-07-10 55
                 RE: Bolshoi in London - Major cast changes ian_palmermoderator 13-07-10 61
                     RE: Bolshoi in London - Major cast changes Bluebird 13-07-10 62
                     RE: Bolshoi in London - Major cast changes Don Q fan 13-07-10 64
  RE: Bolshoi in London - Revised Casting (UK) 13/7/2010 Bruceadmin 13-07-10 63
  Giselle programme timings alison 19-07-10 65
     RE: Giselle programme timings Kinsayder 19-07-10 66
  NEW THREAD STARTED Bruceadmin 20-07-10 67

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Amelia

21-12-09, 08:50 PM (BST)
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1. "RE: Bolshoi in London - July / Aug 2010"
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   Thank you very much, KM, for spotting it.
An excellent programme I think.
We will see 4 new ballets - a full-legth one and three 1-act ones.
And Giselle will be shown in a double bill with Serenade, which is quite generous.

However, they have to check and correct the dates for Spartacus and Coppélia:

Spartacus
19 / 20 / 21 / 31 July at 7.30pm / 31 July at 2.00pm

Coppélia
19 / 20 / 21 / 31 July at 7.30pm / 31 July at 2.00pm

????????????


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KM

22-12-09, 09:17 AM (BST)
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2. "RE: Bolshoi in London - July / Aug 2010"
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   >However, they have to check and correct the dates for
>Spartacus and Coppélia:

Yes, I already noted in my post that something's wrong with the listing as the dates are identical.


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22-12-09, 11:13 AM (BST)
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3. "RE: Bolshoi in London - July / Aug 2010"
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   At a guess based on the previous Bolshoi seasons which have often opened with a premiere production (Pharaoh's Daughter and Corsaire in previous years), I would imagine the summer season will open with the performances of "Coppelia", and "Spartacus" will be on the as yet vacant dates of 26/27/28 July. My guess is that Vasiliev will be given the opening night "Spartacus" along with other exciting new casts over the run.


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29-12-09, 03:23 PM (BST)
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4. "RE: Bolshoi in London - July / Aug 2010"
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   It seems they have updated their schedule - now it looks like this for Spartacus and Coppelia

Spartacus:
19/20/21/ 31

Coppelia
22/23/24


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Amelia

29-12-09, 06:51 PM (BST)
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5. "RE: Bolshoi in London - July / Aug 2010"
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   Thank you, Carboni1, for showing the right dates here.

It is really unfortunate that the ROH have been failing to spot their error for days and had to be prompted to put it right by outsiders. I know that. Why can not they check properly their information before presenting it to the public?
By the way, talking about information from the ROH (although off the Bolshoi topic). When Polunin was dancing in The Nutcracker today, there was no mentioning in the programme, as it is usually being done, that he replaced Putrov who was announced earlier.


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Amelia

29-12-09, 07:15 PM (BST)
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6. "RE: Bolshoi in London - July / Aug 2010"
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   Please take notice that the dates for Serenade/Giselle have been also corrected:

http://www.roh.org.uk/bolshoi/index.aspx


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30-12-09, 08:51 PM (BST)
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7. "RE: Bolshoi in London - July / Aug 2010"
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   Thanks for the dates - super rep and very very pleased to see Don Quixote returns must book the dates off work!!


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01-01-10, 08:45 PM (BST)
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8. "RE: Bolshoi in London - July / Aug 2010"
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   LAST EDITED ON 01-01-10 AT 08:47 PM (GMT)
 
Just thought - I think there is a partial date clash with the Mikhailovsky tour as well at the start of the tour - any one know their dates and rep? I think they will be at the Coliseum closely followed by Carlos Acosta with his show - certainly will be a feast of ballet in July/August!


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9. "RE: Bolshoi in London - July / Aug 2010"
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   I've been checking the ENO website and the only 2 week 'window' for the Mikhailovsky that I can see seems to be the weeks of the 12th and 19th July so there will probably be a partial clash with the Bolshoi. I too would be interested in their rep. (and indeed firm dates) if anyone knows. I am going to try and alter my leave from work as I hadn't booked the first week of the Bolshoi as I thought it would be the opera as it always has been until this visit. The rep. looks good though I am slightly disappointed we aren't getting either Flames of Paris or Esmerelda. We have good Coppelias and Giselles in our own rep. but these ballets would have been new. However,it is always interesting to see different productions and I suppose in these difficult financial times impressarios have to play safe and at least we haven't got swan lake! I also wish the public booking opened (at least online)on Easter Monday and not the Tuesday when most people have gone back to work. Does it open at midnight online or do we have to wait for 10am? Joan


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02-01-10, 07:49 PM (BST)
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10. "RE: Bolshoi in London - July / Aug 2010"
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   ^^ if you sign up to the Victor Hochhauser website (assuming they are promoting this tour) you will most likely get priority booking in between the ROH Friends and Public booking as per the Kirov. I think Mikhailovsky are due to bring Giselle and Swan Lake and ENB has Swan Lake as well in June so we'll be drowning again whatever LOL!!
I agree would have been good to see Bolshoi bring Esmerelda and/or Flames of Paris and I'd like to have seen Pharoah's Daughter again too. Either way I am just glad they are coming!


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06-01-10, 02:26 AM (BST)
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11. "RE: Bolshoi in London - July / Aug 2010"
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   Does anyone have casting information?

Pat


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12-01-10, 03:39 PM (BST)
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12. "RE: Bolshoi in London - July / Aug 2010"
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   And wouldn't it have been a treat to see Osipova and Vasiliev in their production of Fille? Though the clips on Youtube look rather strange


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14-02-10, 10:40 AM (BST)
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13. "PR: Bolshoi at Royal Opera House in July/August"
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Victor Hochhauser presents
THE BOLSHOI OPERA AND BALLET AT THE ROYAL OPERA HOUSE, COVENT GARDEN

19 July – 8 August 2010

Public booking opens 6 April 2010
www.roh.org.uk/bolshoi

The magnificent Bolshoi Ballet and Opera companies return for an exciting four week season at the Royal Opera House, Covent Garden, to be presented by Victor Hochhauser who first brought the Company to this country nearly fifty years ago. Now, together with the celebrated Orchestra of the Bolshoi Theatre, there is another opportunity to see this great Company in spectacular ballet and opera productions.

BOLSHOI OPERA

‘The most intense, emotional Tchaikovsky that has ever been seen’.

The Bolshoi Opera presents the British premiere of Dmitri Tcherniakov’s powerful production of Tchaikovsky’s great romantic masterpiece, Eugene Onegin, to be conducted by Dmitri Jurowski. The Bolshoi’s incomparable singers include the sensational winner of the 2009 BBC Cardiff Singer of the World competition, Ekaterina Scherbachenko. The Bolshoi’s Eugene Onegin has toured Europe, Japan, China and Russia, and is one of their most acclaimed productions, hailed for its intensity and passion.

Eugene Onegin 11,12,13,14 August at 7pm


BOLSHOI BALLET

Highlights of the ballet season include the Bolshoi’s joyous revival of Coppélia, which has earned ecstatic accolades since its premiere in Moscow last year, and a fascinating triple bill of three celebrated ballets by some of Russia’s supreme choreographers: Fokine’s immortal Petrushka set to Stravinsky’s extraordinary score; the Grand Pas from Petipa’s masterpiece Paquita, in a revival by Yuri Burlaka; and the British premiere of Alexei Ratmansky’s Russian Seasons, an exuberant celebration of Russian folk dance.

Three renowned classics particularly associated with the Bolshoi’s matchless vitality return to the stage of the Royal Opera House. The season opens with Yuri Grigorovich’s legendary staging of Spartacus to Khachaturian’s famous score and closes with Don Quixote, an exhilarating celebration of the Bolshoi’s breathtakingly virtuoso dancing and irrepressible wit. Following its spectacular success in 2007, Alexei Ratmansky’s recreation of Le Corsaire returns with its exotic blend of love, intrigue and deception.

In contrast, Balanchine’s great twentieth-century classic, Serenade and the haunting Giselle, performed in Yuri Grigorovich’s acclaimed version, combine in a programme which displays the elegance and beauty of the Bolshoi’s incomparable dancers.

The full complement of the Bolshoi’s leading dancers including Maria Alexandrova, Anna Antonicheva , Maria Allash, Nina Kaptsova, Natalia Osipova, Ekaterina Shipulina, Svetlana Zakharova and Yuri Baranov, Mikhail Lobukhin, Andrei Merkuriev, Ruslan Skvortsov, Nikolai Tsiskaridze and Ivan Vasiliev will perform in London.

Spartacus 19, 20, 21, 31 July at 7.30pm, 31 July at 2pm

Coppélia 22, 23, 24, July at 7.30pm. 24 July at 2pm

Serenade/Giselle 26, 27, 28 July at 7.30pm

Triple Bill 29, 30 July at 7.30pm

Le Corsaire 2, 3, 4, 5 August at 7.30pm

Don Quixote 6, 7 August at 7.30pm, 7 August at 2pm, 8 August at 3pm


Booking information
Public booking opens on 6 April 2010
www.roh.org.uk/bolshoi
020 7304 4000

Ticket prices
Ballet

£10, £15, £22, £45, £48, £62, £65, £90, £97

Opera
£10, £15, £25, £37, £54, £57, £67, £76, £112, £125, £135


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alison

14-02-10, 11:11 PM (BST)
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14. "RE: PR: Bolshoi at Royal Opera House in July/August"
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   >the British premiere of Alexei Ratmansky’s
>Russian Seasons, an exuberant celebration
>of Russian folk dance.

Funny, I could have sworn that was what NYCB danced at the Coliseum a couple of years ago?

Does anyone have any more feedback on the Eugene Onegin? I never entirely trust what I read in press releases ...


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Amelia

14-02-10, 11:43 PM (BST)
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15. "RE: PR: Bolshoi at Royal Opera House in July/August"
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   You are right, Alison.
The reviews on NYCB’ Russian Seasons are here:
http://www.google.com/search?q=ratmansky+russian+seasons+NYCB+Coliseum&rls=com.microsoft:en-gb:IE-SearchBox&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=ie7&rlz=1I7GGLD_en

Where Onegin is concerned the release is telling the truth about “its intensity and passion”.
At the same time the behaviour of Pushkin’s romantic characters is modernised to the highest degree.



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Bruceadmin

15-02-10, 09:25 AM (BST)
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16. "RE: PR: Bolshoi at Royal Opera House in July/August"
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The Google link brings up what Google does, which can be a tangle of great use and not - it needs sifting.

This link raides our Reviews Database and brings up 14 reviews including those by the major writers and indexed by dancer etc:
http://www.ballet.co.uk/tiny/eqc

I got it by going to the Reviews database page (there is a link to it on home page):
http://www.ballet.co.uk/cgi/reviews_database_search/db_search.cgi

and for production I entered Russian Seasons
and for Place I entered London.


If I just looked for Russian Seasons reviews, wherever in the world, I get over 40 reviews returned:
http://www.ballet.co.uk/tiny/fqc


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15-02-10, 11:16 AM (BST)
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17. "RE: PR: Bolshoi at Royal Opera House in July/August"
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   Oh no! I cannot imagine a season of Giselle without Lunkina. Why is she not appearing on the roster, I wonder? She is surely back off maternity leave.

And disappointing not to be seeing Uvarov once again.


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17-02-10, 03:21 PM (BST)
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18. "RE: PR: Bolshoi at Royal Opera House in July/August"
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   LAST EDITED ON 17-02-10 AT 03:29 PM (GMT)
 
I must agree with you it is really disappointing not to see Andrei Uvarov come over as he missed that last tour aswell. If my memory serves me correctly the last time that A.U. was included in a tour was Japan or did he go to the States last year?

He has not made many recent appearances at home either, but they do seem to be changing the casts at a drop a hat.

take care Ghost


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Amelia

17-02-10, 10:08 PM (BST)
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19. "RE: PR: Bolshoi at Royal Opera House in July/August"
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   Ian, I agree, Lunkina's absence would be a great disappointment.
She might come back yet. She is in Canada with her family at the moment, obviously enjoying being there with her nearest and dearest at such an exciting time.
She hasn't started doing class yet. BUT! There are still several months left till July. Let's keep our fingers crossed.

I also would like to see Andrei Uvarov again. He appears with Zakharova on her personal tours sometimes and in gala concerts.


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20. "RE: PR: Bolshoi at Royal Opera House in July/August"
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   Uvarov was scheduled to dance on the US tour last June, but did not come.


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18-02-10, 03:05 PM (BST)
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21. "RE: PR: Bolshoi at Royal Opera House in July/August"
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   Anybody heard anything about Svetlana Zakharova? She cancelled her performance in Orange County, USA in Feb, and does not seem to be among the cast for London anymore.

Pat


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18-02-10, 07:25 PM (BST)
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22. "RE: PR: Bolshoi at Royal Opera House in July/August"
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   Svetlana is due at the Nureyev Gala in London on 21 March. Her website had plenty of appearances scheduled on it when I checked last week.


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19-02-10, 10:06 AM (BST)
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23. "RE: PR: Bolshoi at Royal Opera House in July/August"
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   Has she not injured herself on tour in the US?


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19-02-10, 10:42 AM (BST)
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24. "RE: PR: Bolshoi at Royal Opera House in July/August"
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   Zakharova was injured already before the current US tour.


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Mijosh

11-03-10, 05:18 PM (BST)
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25. "RE: PR: Bolshoi at Royal Opera House in July/August"
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   London casting now out on: elise-wwwwords.blogspot.com


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12-03-10, 10:11 AM (BST)
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26. "RE: PR: Bolshoi at Royal Opera House in July/August"
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   Casting is also on ROH website (click on Buy tickets link).


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12-03-10, 10:34 AM (BST)
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27. "RE: PR: Bolshoi at Royal Opera House in July/August"
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   Any news of Zakharova's condition? She's in the casting lists, but her website doesn't have any performances after June - although it *does* show the Nureyev gala which should mean she's recovered?

afds


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Jane Sadmin

12-03-10, 03:36 PM (BST)
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28. "RE: PR: Bolshoi at Royal Opera House in July/August"
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   Casting on one page, for ease of reference. Subject to change.

Spartacus 19, 20, 21, 31 July at 7.30pm, 31 July at 2pm

Vasiliev/Kaptsova/Zakharova/Volchkov 19, 31E
Nikulina/Dmitrichenko/Alexandrova/Baranov 20
Lobukhin/Kaptsova/Krysanova/Shpilevsky 21
Nikulina/Dmitirichenko/tbc/Baranov 31M


Coppélia 22, 23, 24, July at 7.30pm. 24 July at 2pm

Alexandrova/Skvortsov 22
Osipova/Lopatin 23
Stashkevich/Lopatin 24M
Osipova/Skvortsov 24E

Serenade/Giselle 26, 27, 28 July at 7.30pm

Krysanova/Leonova/Yatsenko/Shpilevsky and Zakharova/Tsiskaridze/Allash 26

Leonova/Yatsenko/Stashkevich/Shpilevsky and Osipova/Volchkov/Allash 27

Krysanova/Leonova/Yatsenko/Shpilevsky and Nikulina/Skvortsov/Leonova 28

Russian Seasons/Petrushka/Paquita 29, 30 July at 7.30pm

Alexandrova/Volchov; Vasiliev/Osipova/Savin; Osipova/Zakharova/Merkuriev 29

Vorontsova/Tsiskaridze; Lopatin/Krysanova/Biktimirov; Osipova/tbc 30

Le Corsaire 2, 3, 4, 5 August at 7.30pm

Alexandrova/Tsiskaridze/Krysanova 2, 5
Osipova/Vasiliev/Kaptsova 3
Shipulina/Skvortsov/Yatsenko 4

Don Quixote 6, 7 August at 7.30pm, 7 August at 2pm, 8 August at 3pm

Sakharova/Lobukhin 6, 8
Krysanova/Merkuriev 7M
Osipova/Vasiliev 7E


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29. "RE: PR: Bolshoi at Royal Opera House in July/August"
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   Many thanks Jane


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30. "RE: PR: Bolshoi at Royal Opera House in July/August"
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31. "RE: PR: Bolshoi at Royal Opera House in July/August"
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   Anyone know if Victor Hochhauser will offer any priority booking to email subscribers to their website as per the Kirov last year?


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32. "RE: PR: Bolshoi at Royal Opera House in July/August"
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   Judging by the Bolshoi’s page of Victor Hochhauser’s website the exclusive or priority booking for subscribers to the Members’ Lodge is not offered this time:

http://www.victorhochhauser.co.uk/
(You also can watch extracts from Bolshoi’s Le Corsaire on that site.)

To be absolutely sure one can phone their office. The details are in Yellow Pages on internet:

http://www.yell.com/b/Victor+Hochhauser-Music+Management+and+Promotion-London-NW37LR-395533/index.html


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33. "RE: PR: The Hochhausers"
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   When looking at Victor Hochhausers website I noticed something that I had missed before: they received two awards last autumn. One of them is not just a prize but a national order of the Russian Federation:

"Two further awards for Victor and Lilian Hochhauser.
On 27 October 2009 The President of the Russian Federation, Mr Dmitry Medvedev signed a decree that Victor and Lilian Hochhauser are to be awarded the Order of Friendship of the Russian Federation for their considerable contribution to the strengthening and developing of Russian-British relations.
On 16 November 2009 The Royal Academy of Dance honoured Victor and Lilian Hochhauser with the Queen Elizabeth II Coronation Award 2009, to mark their lifetime contribution to dance in Britain."

I really want to congratulate Victor & Lilian Hochhausers. They have been representing opera and ballet companies and individual dancers, singers and musicians for over 50 years and proved to be not only successful impresarios but also people of spirit, courageous and high-hearted. When Mstislav Rostropovich was ostracized in the USSR for his support of Solzhenitsyn and for disagreements with the Soviet system, then was forced to leave his country and both he and his wife Galina Vishnevskaya were stripped of the Soviet citizenship, it were the Hochhausers who met the exile in Heathrow and offered him professional, practical and moral support. They knew what risk they were taking and were ready to sacrifice a huge chunk of their business, which they were inevitably doomed to loose.
The monopolistic Soviet agency Goskontsert stopped all dealings with them and the Russian business went in Britain to a newly formed company Entertainment Corporation (which eventually went bankrupt).
Only about 18 years later, after the collapse of the USSR, the Hochhausers resumed their collaboration with the Russian companies and artists now freed of the Soviet system.
My congratulations to Lilian & Victor with their awards and thank you for their integrity and loyalty to artists.


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34. "RE: PR: The Hochhausers"
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   ^^^ Thank you for the info Amelia - and yes well deserved awards for the Hochhausers!


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35. "RE: PR: The Hochhausers"
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   Kevin Ng wrote:
"Zakharova was injured already before the current US tour."

Svetlana is back and danced Don Q. in Moscow yesterday.


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36. "Dancers not appearing"
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   Having had a closer look at this casting list, I have to express a certain disppointment that some "senior" dancers are once again absent from London. I have already mentioned Lunkina and Uvarov, but also absent, once again, are Stepanova, Gracheva and how sad that Rhyzkhina (who almost made her longed-for London performance in 2007 but was prevented by injury) is not coming also. Neither, too, Allash nor (a particular disapointment for me) Gudanov, whose Albrecht I was looking forward to seeing. I hope this does not suggest a new trend at the Bolshoi, similar to that now current at the Mariinsky, where older dancers are being pushed aside in favour of a young generation.


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37. "RE: Dancers not appearing"
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   I agree, Ian. Ryzhkina is a lovely touching Phrygia. She also can dance Giselle and Kitri.
I know someone who is crying his eyes out that Antonicheva is not coming. And StepanENKO will be left at home too.
Allash is coming by the way, she will dance Aegina and Myrtha.


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38. "RE: Dancers not appearing"
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   Well I've not been to a single ballet performance for full 3-months & counting, and hoped that this summer's Bolshoi visit would revive my passion for ballets.... have to say this prelim. casting info. hasn't give me a good appetite. (Bolshoi's DonQ without Maria Alexandrova is unthinkable, to say the least!)


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40. "RE: Dancers not appearing"
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   Any comments on Anastasia Stashkevich? I'm assuming the Osipova Coppelia will be mobbed and hope to at least find tickets for the matinee.

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39. "RE: PR: The Hochhausers"
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   Hooray!

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41. "RE: PR: Bolshoi at Royal Opera House in July/August"
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   Just to say that Victor Hochhauser are offering priority booking after all; got my e-mail last night. The priority booking period is 10am 31st March, until 12pm 1st April. Telephone or online.

Cathy


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42. "RE: PR: Bolshoi at Royal Opera House in July/August"
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   ^^ me too - thank goodness!!


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43. "RE: PR: Bolshoi at Royal Opera House in July/August"
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   Just got my tickets! I am so excited I can hardly sit still!

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44. "RE: Bolshoi in London - Major cast changes"
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   LAST EDITED ON 09-07-10 AT 09:25 PM (GMT - BST)
 
The changes have not yet been posted anywhere in English yet, but a press release in Russian on the Bolshoi's website signals some major changes in the announced casting: http://bit.ly/bmvzlT

Zakharova is out of the tour, as are apparently Ekaterina Shipulina and young soloist Angelina Vorontsova. Marianna Ryzhkina joins the company in London.

Alexandrova no longer dances Coppelia - Osipova gets the opening night and now performs with Skvortsov, Stashkevitch gets one more performance.

The Giselle line-up has changed completely: Osipova/Skvortsov on opening night instead of Zakharova, then Nikulina/Volchkov & Kaptsova/Skvortsov.

Alexandrova/Tsiskaridze lead both performances of the Paquita Grand Pas.

Ekaterina Krysanova gets one Medora in lieu of Shipulina.

Some drastic changes as well in the Don Quixote line-up: Osipova/Vasiliev now get 2 performances but not their original one, Marianna Ryzhkina steps in to do one Kitri.


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45. "RE: Bolshoi in London - Major cast changes"
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   Thanks for that, Azulynn. I wonder if some kind person could anglicize that Russian cast list, as the ROH don't seem to be aware of the changes yet.

I remember the last time the Bolshoi were here someone joked that the best way to see the dancers you wanted was to book the dates when they weren't scheduled to appear...


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47. "RE: Bolshoi in London - Major cast changes"
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   LAST EDITED ON 10-07-10 AT 08:47 AM (GMT - BST)
 
>Thanks for that, Azulynn. I wonder if some kind person could
>anglicize that Russian cast list, as the ROH don't seem to
>be aware of the changes yet.

I just used the 'translate' button on the page from the Bolshoi website and it seems to have come out reasonably well:


Spartacus
19, 20, 21 July (19.30) 31 July (14.00, 19.30)

19, 21, 31 July (19.30)
Spartak - Ivan Vasiliev
Phrygia - Nina Kaptsova
Crassus - Alexander Volchkov
Aegina - Maria Allash

20, 31 July (14.00)
Spartak - Paul Dmitrichenko
Phrygia - Anna Nikulina
Crass - Yuri Baranov
Aegina - Catherine Krysanova

Coppelia
22, July 23 (19.30) 24 July (14.00, 19.30)

22, 24 July (19.30)
Swanilda - Natalia Osipova
Franz - Ruslan Skvortsov
Koppelius - Gennady Yanin

23, 24 July (14.00)
Swanilda - Anastasia Stashkevich
Franz - Vyacheslav Lopatin
Koppelius - Gennady Yanin


"Serenade", "Giselle"
26, 27, 28 July (19.30)

Serenade
26, July 28
Catherine Krysanova
Anastasia Yatsenko
Anna Leonova
Yegor Khromushin
Karim Abdullin

July 27
Catherine Krysanova
Anastasia Stashkevich
Victoria Osipova
Yegor Khromushin
Karim Abdullin

Giselle
July 26
Giselle - Natalia Osipova
Count Albert - Ruslan Skvortsov
Myrtha - Maria Allash

July 27
Giselle - Anna Nikulina
Count Albert - Alexander Volchkov
Myrtha - Maria Allash

July 28
Giselle - Nina Kaptsova
Count Albert - Ruslan Skvortsov
Mirta - Anna Leonova


"Petruchka," "Russian Seasons", more classical Pas from Paquita
29, July 30 (19.30)

"Pet"
July 29
Petrushka - Michael Lobuhin
Ballerina - Nina Kaptsova
Arap - Denis Savin
Magician - Gennady Yanin

July 30
Petrushka - Ivan Vasiliev
Ballerina - Anastasia Stashkevich
Arap - Igor Tsvirko
Magician - Gennady Yanin

"Russian Seasons"

A pair of yellow
Catherine Krysanova
Andrew Merkur'ev

Couple in red
Natalia Osipova (29 July), Anastasia Meskova (30 July),
Denis Savin

Couple in green
Julia Grebenshchikova
Alexander Vodopetov

A pair of blue
Anna Okunev
Vladislav Lantratov

A pair of purple
Chinara Alizadeh
Igor Tsvirko

A pair of burgundy
Anna Nikulina
Vyacheslav Lopatin

Many classical Pas from Paquita

Paquita - Maria Alexandrova
Lucien d'Ervili - Nikolai Tsiskaridze
Pas de trois
Anna Tikhomirova
Anastasia Stashkevich
Vladislav Lantratov (29 July), Andrei Bolotin (30 July),


Le Corsaire
2-5 August (19.30)

August 2
Medora - Maria Alexandrova
Conrad - Nikolai Tsiskaridze
Gulnara - Marianna Ryzhkina
Birbanto - Vitali Biktimirov

August 3
Medora - Natalia Osipova
Conrad - Ivan Vasiliev
Gulnara - Nina Kaptsova
Birbanto - Andrew Merkur'ev

August 4
Medora - Catherine Krysanova
Conrad - Ruslan Skvortsov
Gulnara - Marianna Ryzhkina
Birbanto - Vitali Biktimirov

August 5
Medora - Maria Alexandrova
Conrad - Alexander Volchkov
Gulnara - Anastasia Yatsenko
Birbanto - Andrew Merkur'ev

"Don Quixote"
August 6 (19.30), 7 August (14.00, 19.30), 8 August (15.00)

August 6
Kitri - Natalia Osipova
Basilio - Ivan Vasiliev
Street dancer - Anastasia Yatsenko
Queen of Dryads - Maria Allash

7 August (14.00)
Kitri - Catherine Krysanova
Basile - Andrew Merkur'ev
Street Dancer - Anna Leonova
Queen of Dryads - Anna Nikulina

7 August (19.30)
Kitri - Marianna Ryzhkina
Basile - Michael Lobuhin
Street Dancer - Anna Leonova
Queen of Dryads - Maria Allash

8 August (15.00)
Kitri - Natalia Osipova
Basilio - Ivan Vasiliev
Street dancer - Anastasia Yatsenko
Queen of Dryads - Anna Nikulina

Eugene Onegin
August 11-14 (19.00)

Conductor
Dmitri Jurowski

Larina, a landowner
Makvala Kasrashvili (11, 13)
Irina Rubtsova (12, 14)

Tatiana, her daughter
Tatiana Monogarova (11, 13)
Catherine Shcherbachenko (12, 14)

Olga, her daughter
Margarita Mamsirova (11, 13)
Oksana Volkova (12, 14)

Filippevna, nanny
Nina Romanova (11, 13)
Irina Udalova (12, 14)

Eugene Onegin
Mariusz Kvechen (11, 13)
Basil Ladyuk (12, 14)

Vladimir Lensky
Roman SHULAKOV (11, 13)
Alexey Dolgov (12, 14)

Prince Gremin
Anatoly Kocherga (11, 13)
Mikhail Kazakov (12, 14)

Zaretsky
Valery Gilmanov

Edited to make layout clearer
Edited again to change 'parsley' to Petrushka



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09-07-10, 10:34 PM (BST)
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48. "RE: Bolshoi in London - Major cast changes"
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   Thank you, Bluebird!

I've ended up with an Osipova/Vasiliev Don Q, so I'm not entirely upset by the changes.


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57. "RE: Bolshoi in London - Major cast changes"
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I love all this... there is still no official revised casting available from Victor Hochhauser. Impossible to say what is happening betwixt impresario and company but the hope is that revised casting will emerge tomorrow. Be interesting to see if it is the same as that released in Moscow on Friday or it has been through another iteration...


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58. "RE: Bolshoi in London - Major cast changes"
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   The ROH have changed the casting information, though it's not the same as the cast list posted by the Bolshoi on Friday. I think all they've done is to replace Zakharova's name in each of her performances. E.g., they now have Osipova with Lobukhin for Don Quixote on August 6 & 8, and Osipova with Vasiliev on August 7!


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59. "RE: Bolshoi in London - Major cast changes"
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   >The ROH have changed the casting information, though it's
>not the same as the cast list posted by the Bolshoi on
>Friday. I think all they've done is to replace Zakharova's
>name in each of her performances. E.g., they now have
>Osipova with Lobukhin for Don Quixote on August 6 & 8, and
>Osipova with Vasiliev on August 7!

And they're showing Osipova's partner for Giselle on July 26th as Nikolai Tsiskaridze.


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60. "RE: Bolshoi in London - Major cast changes"
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   >
>I love all this... Be interesting to see if it is the same as that >released in Moscow on Friday or it has been through another >iteration...

Well it makes me wonder if publishing casting in advance is more a hindrance than a help.

I remember in 1986, when there was no advance casting, eventually during the season a hand written casting board appeared appeared in the window of the old box office in Floral Street.

A much ammended hand written casting board.


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46. "RE: Bolshoi in London - Major cast changes"
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   Sorry to hear that! Still, we'll look forward to seeing the others, and wish Zakharova, Shipulina, and Vorontsova a full and quick recovery, if their absences are because of injury.


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49. "RE: Bolshoi in London - Major cast changes"
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   LAST EDITED ON 09-07-10 AT 11:35 PM (GMT - BST)
 
I'm terribly disappointed about not seeing Zakharova's Giselle having missed it in Milan, although I'm sure Osipova will be a great substitute. She's been injured/out of action for quite a while, hasn't she? Here's wishing her a complete recovery from whatever it is.

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10-07-10, 05:42 AM (BST)
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50. "RE: A minor correction"
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   LAST EDITED ON 10-07-10 AT 06:00 AM (GMT - BST)
 
"Petrouchka," "Russian Seasons", more classical Pas from Paquita
29, July 30 (19.30)

"Parsley" *)
July 29
Parsley *) - Michael Lobuhin
Ballerina - Nina Kaptsova
Arap - Denis Savin
Magician - Gennady Yanin

July 30
Parsley *) - Ivan Vasiliev
Ballerina - Anastasia Stashkevich
Arap - Igor Tsvirko
Magician - Gennady Yanin

*) A minor correction!
"Parsley" must be replaced by "Petrushka".
The Russian word "Petrushka" means both - "parsley" and one of the diminutives for the name Petr/Pyotr/Peter.

Edited for typo.


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51. "RE: A minor correction"
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   >*) A minor correction!
>"Parsley" must be replaced by "Petrushka".
>The Russian word "Petrushka" means both - "parsley" and one
>of the diminutives for the name Petr/Pyotr/Peter.

Many thanks, Amelia. The automated translation clearly couldn't cope with this! Fortunately I saw your correction while there was still time to edit the posting so it should now be accurate.


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52. "RE: A minor correction"
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   Oh this is so annoying having booked to try to see Osipova/Valsiliev on certain dates - I know it can't be helped but at the prices they are charging it is annoying. I have tickets but not in the best seats for their changed performances! Really sad I won't now see Osipova's Giselle or Nikolai T in Le Corsaire


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53. "RE: A minor correction"
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   I know - it's so frustrating. The two things I really really wanted to see Osipova in, and she gets moved out of both of them

Thanks to various people for the updates - I was trying to decipher them on the Bolshoi website last night and my eyes were going crossed.

BTW, has anyone spotted whether there are any changes to the Eugene Onegin casts?


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56. "RE: A minor correction"
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   >BTW, has anyone spotted whether there are any changes to the
>Eugene Onegin casts?

Yes, much to my annoyance they switched the Tatyanas around: Shcherbachenko is now second cast (12, 14 Aug) and Monogarova first (11, 13 Aug).


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54. "RE: Bolshoi in London - Major cast changes"
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   >>She's been injured/out of action for quite a while, hasn't she?

Actually Zakharova did guest-appear with Japan's New National Theatre Ballet, last week (in La dame aux camelias). It appears she did 3 shows in this run, so I presume she'd be pretty much in good shape now...


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55. "RE: Bolshoi in London - Major cast changes"
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   >>>She's been injured/out of action for quite a while, hasn't she?
>
>Actually Zakharova did guest-appear with Japan's New
>National Theatre Ballet, last week (in La dame aux
>camelias). It appears she did 3 shows in this run, so I
>presume she'd be pretty much in good shape now...

I thought it's been a while, since the US tour was in April and she dropped out of Ballet Imperial in Milan in May because of injury, according to the Scala website. Her own website isn't showing any scheduled performances after Tokyo.
Curiouser and curiouser

afds


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13-07-10, 01:02 PM (BST)
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61. "RE: Bolshoi in London - Major cast changes"
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   Looking at the new casting, I cannot say that I feel too disheartened. Whilst I will not see Alexandrova in Coppelia now, I believe Osipova is a delight in the role. Similarly, London will FINALLY get to see Marianna Ryzhkina in a Principal role. Something I will definitely try and head down to London for.

Ismene Brown has written a piece in today's Arts Desk concerning the Bolshoi casting changes:
The Arts Desk


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13-07-10, 01:20 PM (BST)
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62. "RE: Bolshoi in London - Major cast changes"
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   LAST EDITED ON 13-07-10 AT 01:50 PM (GMT - BST)
 
Just checked the ROH website. The new Don Q castings are up and almost match the changed ones announced on the Bolshoi website last week. I do, however, think there must be a mistake as they have given Osipova the first and last performance but still have her down for her original evening performance on the 7th.

As of now, the Coppelia casting has not been changed and Alexandrova is still down for the 22nd July.

Also, Osipova is down for the July 26 AND July 27 Giselle with Nikulina down for July 28

I suspect that there are gremlins at work and that we'll see more changes yet.

Edited to point out possible mistake in Don Q casting


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64. "RE: Bolshoi in London - Major cast changes"
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   I totally agree - so nice to see other Principals that do not seem usually to come here, so I can forgive the Bolshoi for this!


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Bruceadmin

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63. "RE: Bolshoi in London - Revised Casting (UK) 13/7/2010"
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   LAST EDITED ON 13-07-10 AT 03:34 PM (GMT - BST)
 
Victor Hochhauser presents

THE BOLSHOI BALLET
at the Royal Opera House
Monday 19 July – Saturday 14 August 2010

REVISED CASTING
13.07.2010

Svetlana Zakharova has had to withdraw from the Bolshoi Ballet season at the Royal Opera House due to a hip injury. The revised casting is listed below.

Spartacus
July 19, 20 21, 31 (mat &eve)

Spartacus           Ivan Vasiliev 19, 21, 31(eve)
Pavel Dmitrichenko 20, 31(eve)
Crassus Alexander Volchkov 19, 21, 31(eve)
Yury Baranov 20, 31(mat)
Phrygia Nina Kaptsova 19, 21, 31(eve)
Anna Nikulina 20, 31(mat)
Aegina Maria Allash 19, 21, 31(eve)
Ekaterina Krysanova 20, 31(mat)


Coppélia
July 22, 23, 24 (mat & eve)

Swanilda            Natalia Osipova 22, 24(eve)
Anastasia Stashkevich 23, 24(mat)
Frantz Ruslan Skvortsov 22, 24(eve)
Vyacheslav Lopatin 23, 24(mat)
Dr Coppelius Gennady Yanin


I Serenade
July 26, 27, 28

Waltz                        Ekaterina Krysanova, Igor Khromushin
Russian Dance Anastasia Yatsenko 26, 28 Anastasia Stashkevich 27
Svetlana Pavlova, Maria Vinogradova, Daria Gurevich, Anna Tikhomirova
Elegy Anna Leonova 26, 28
Victoria Osipova 27
Karim Abdullin

II Giselle

Giselle               Natalia Osipova 26
Anna Nikulina 27
Nina Kaptsova 28
Prince Albrecht Ruslan Skvortsov26, 28
Alexander Volchkov 27
Berthe Elena Bukanova
Bathilde Ekaterina Barykina
Grand Duke Alexey Loparevich


Triple Bill
29, 30 July

I Petrushka

Petrushka           Mikhail Lobukhin 29
Ivan Vasiliev 30
Ballerina Nina Kaptsova 29
Anastasia Stashkevich 30
Moor Denis Savin 29
Igor Tsvirko 30
Charlatan Gennady Yanin

II Russian Seasons

Couple in Yellow
(then in white) Ekaterina Krysanova Andrei Merkuriev
Couple in Red Natalia Osipova 29
Anastasia Meskova 30
Denis Savin
Couple in Green Yulia Grebenschikova Alexander Vodopetov
Couple in Blue Anna Okuneva Vladislav Lantratov
Couple in Violet Chinara Alizade Igor Tsvirko
Couple in Claret
Red Anna Nikulina Vyacheslav Lopatin

III Grand Pas from ballet “Paquita”

Paquita              Maria Alexandrova
Lucien d’Hervilly Nkolay Tsiskaridze
Pas de Trois Anna Tikhomirova Anastasia Stashkevich
Vladislav Lantratov 29
Andrey Bolotin 30

Le Corsaire
2, 3, 4, 5 August 2010

Medora      Maria Alexandrova 2, 5
Natalia Osipova 3,
Ekaterina Krysanova 4
Conrad Nikolay Tsiskaridze 2
Ivan Vasiliev 3
Ruslan Skvortsov 4
Alexander Volshkov 5
Gulnare Marianna Ryzhkina 2, 4
Nina Kaptsova 3
Anastasia Yatsenko 5
Birbanto Vitaly Biktimirov 2, 4
Andrey Merkuriev 3, 5
Pas d’esclaves
Nina Kaptsova 2, 4
Anastasia Yatsenko 3, 5
Ivan Vasiliev 2
Denis Medvedev 4
Vyacheslav Lopatin 3, 5


Don Quixote
6, 7 (mat & eve), 8 (mat) August

Kitri                  Natalia Osipova 6, 8
Ekaterina Krysanova 7(mat)
Marianna Ryzhkina 7(eve)
Basilio Ivan Vasiliev 6, 8
Andrey Merkuriev 7(mat)
Mikhail Lobukhin 7(eve)
Don Quixote Alexey Loparevich
Sancho Panza Alexander Petukhov 6, 7(eve)
Sergey Minsakov 7(mat), 8
Gamache Denis Savin

Edit: tidy format


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alison

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65. "Giselle programme timings"
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   Have just received an email from the ROH telling me that the approximate finish time for the Serenade/Giselle bill is 22.50. You have been warned! (Perhaps this is why most UK companies don't add an extra piece to the programme?)


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66. "RE: Giselle programme timings"
In response to message #65
 
   >Have just received an email from the ROH telling me that the
>approximate finish time for the Serenade/Giselle bill is
>22.50. You have been warned! (Perhaps this is why most UK
>companies don't add an extra piece to the programme?)

I got that email, too. This was the exact wording:

Performance Timings:
Act I < 19:30 - 20:05> (35 minutes)
Interval < 20:05 - 20:30> (25 minutes)
Act II < 20:30 - 21:25> (55 minutes)
Interval < 21:25 - 21:55> (30 minutes)
Act III < 21:55 - 22:50> (55 minutes)

Act III? Have they got it mixed up with the Le Corsaire?


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67. "NEW THREAD STARTED"
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I've just opend a new thread to talk about the Bolshoi now they are here:
http://www.ballet.co.uk/dcforum/DCForumID12/228.html

All discussion on the new thread please - ta!


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